Am I hurting someone I love?
This one is for the person who did the spanking and is now awake in the dark wondering what kind of person that makes them. I switch, so I have been on both sides of it, and I have been awake at four with this myself. Here is what I have worked out since, including the parts that are not reassuring.
Consenting adults only. Everything on this page is about adults over 18 who have freely agreed to it.
In short
- The guilt usually follows a session that went well, arrives a day or two later, and presents itself as a verdict on your character rather than as a mood.
- People who harm others deliberately are characteristically untroubled by it. Being troubled proves nothing on its own, but it points the right way.
- Check facts, not feelings: whether she asked, whether she has stopped it and seen that work, how she is afterwards, and whether the arrangement survives a no.
- Act on the worry if she has gone quiet and compliant, if you prefer it when she is upset, if you have stopped checking, or if you continued past something you noticed.
You agreed to it. You did it. She asked for it, she enjoyed it, she sent a cheerful message from the train, and it is now ten past three and you are lying in the dark working out what kind of person hits somebody they are fond of.
Everything here is between consenting adults over 18.
There is a page on whether spanking is abuse, which answers that generally. This is the version that turns up two days later with your name on it, and almost nothing speaks to the person who held the implement.
The shape of it
During, nothing was wrong. She was fine and you were fine. It starts afterwards and small: at the sink, or in the car, a flicker of something off that you dismiss inside ten seconds.
Then it waits. It comes back on Sunday evening, and by three in the morning it is no longer a question about one stroke but a finding about what you are.
The timing catches people out. The bad evenings do not produce this. The good ones do, and part of what sets it off is having enjoyed yourself.
I have sat on the edge of a bath at four after an evening that could not have gone better, with a woman asleep twelve feet away who had thanked me twice.
The fact that you are asking
People who hurt others deliberately are characteristically untroubled by it. The men I have known about who did real damage were not the ones awake at three. Self-suspicion of this kind turns up in decent people and is missing from the other sort.
It proves nothing on its own, and I would rather say so than let you sleep on a technicality. Somebody can be worried, fond of her, and still doing damage by drift. Guilt is a poor detector: no access to the facts, and it convicts on mood. So check things instead.
Six things to check
Did she ask?
Who raised it first, and who raises it now? Somebody has to propose, usually the top, so doing most of the asking is no fault (dominance is a service). If she has never initiated and never asked for anything specific, you are in a different arrangement from the one you think.
Can she stop it, and have you proved that?
Not whether she could in principle. Whether she has, and what you did in the second afterwards. A safe word nobody has used is untested equipment. Fix that on purpose: in a light session, ask her to use it whenever she likes, and stop dead.
Is she better afterwards, or worse?
An hour later and a week later. A session that has done its job leaves somebody talkative and slow to get dressed. The other kind leaves somebody flat, dressed quickly, gone. More at when it stops being play.
Would she tell you, and have you made that easy?
Everybody believes their partner would say. Fewer have built anything that makes saying it cheap. Asking whether that was alright while she is still face down gets a yes from somebody being kind. A message on Tuesday asking for one thing to do differently gets an answer.
Does it survive her saying no?
Has she ever turned a session down, and what was the week after like? If she has not declined once in a year, either she wanted it every time or it costs something. You will know which, because you know how you behaved the last time somebody said not tonight.
Could a sensible friend of hers know the details?
Not her mother, not a forum. One reasonable adult who likes her and has no stake in this. If that makes you flinch, work out which detail does it.
Asked-for pain and harm are different things
One distinction sits underneath all six. Pain somebody asked for, inside limits she set, endable in one word at any second, is a different category of thing from harm. Take consent away and nothing holds the two apart, which is why this site is so exacting about it.
One legal note, and I am not a lawyer, so this is not legal advice. In England and Wales, R v Brown [1993] UKHL 19 means consent is not a defence to actual bodily harm, so her asking does not protect you if you injure her. More at is it legal in the UK.
Where the worry is right
Some people reading this should act, and a page that reassured everybody would be worthless. Treat these as a stop rather than a think.
- She has gone quiet and compliant where she used to be responsive. Somebody who stopped arguing about small things has usually stopped reporting large ones.
- You prefer it when she is upset. The sessions after a bad week feel like the real ones.
- You have stopped checking. You used to ask afterwards and watch her face.
- You are the only thing holding her week together. Go away for a fortnight and something goes wrong.
- You continued past something you noticed at the time and decided about on your own.
That last one is mine. Ten strokes into a caning we had agreed would be twelve, her breathing changed. I registered it, told myself she was settling into it, and gave her the other two. She said afterwards that it had been fine. It still counts as a mistake: I had the information, decided alone, and it came out well by luck.
If two or three of those landed, read when it stops being play. If the worry is the arrangement itself, and her money or friendships have narrowed, read consent and coercive control, an offence that requires nobody to be hit.
Or it is drop, in costume
Top drop is the comedown that arrives a day or two later for whoever ran the session, and this feeling is very often that, wearing an argument as a disguise. It arrives as a finding of fact about your character instead of as a mood, which is what makes it persuasive: a verdict seems to demand action.
Your verdict on your own character at three in the morning is evidence about three in the morning and about nothing else. It says nothing about whether she is safe with you. Put the phone down until it is light.
Ask her, and ask properly
Ask the next day, or two days later, never in the moment. Use a message if that makes an honest reply easier, and ask for a criticism rather than reassurance.
"I want to ask you something and there is no wrong answer. Was there any part of Saturday you did not like, or would want different next time? Even a small thing. I would rather know than not know."
That presumes there is something and gives her permission to name it. If she names a thing, thank her and change it. A twenty-minute apology turns her honesty into work. If she says there was nothing, believe her the first time.
The unreassuring part
Some people should not do this. If the appeal survives her unwillingness, or if the moment you keep returning to is the one where she could not have stopped you, the answer at the top of this page is yes. Recognising that is decent rather than a failure.
Stopping is available too, at any point and with no case to argue. "I do not want to do this any more" is a complete sentence.
None of it can be settled at three in the morning. Get up, drink a glass of water, go back to bed. Ask her on Tuesday.
If this is heavier than one bad night
Samaritans, 116 123, free and at any hour, will take a call about guilt or about not much liking yourself, and you do not have to be in crisis to ring.
If the worry is about a relationship rather than about a night, the National Domestic Abuse Helpline is 0808 2000 247, free and 24 hours, and the Men's Advice Line is 0808 8010 327. Nobody on those lines will need the kink explained and nobody will be shocked by it. More on the get help page.
Sources
- R v Brown [1993] UKHL 19. bailii.org
- Serious Crime Act 2015, section 76: controlling or coercive behaviour in an intimate or family relationship. legislation.gov.uk
Common questions
Is it normal to feel like an abuser after spanking your partner?
It is common among people who do the spanking, especially in the first year, and it usually arrives a day or two after a session that went well rather than after one that went badly. The feeling presents itself as a conclusion about your character, which is what makes it convincing at three in the morning. It is not evidence on its own. What settles the question is external: whether your partner asked, whether she has ever stopped a session and seen that respected, and whether she seems better afterwards or worse.
How do I know if I am hurting my partner or if it is consensual?
Check facts rather than feelings. Ask who raised it and who raises it now, whether your partner has ever used a safe word or turned a session down, what the following week was like when she did, and whether she is settled and talkative afterwards or flat and quick to leave. Pain that was asked for, inside limits the other person set, and endable in one word at any second is a different category of thing from harm.
What should I ask my partner after a spanking session?
Ask the next day rather than in the moment, by message if that makes an honest reply easier, and ask for a criticism rather than for reassurance. Something close to: was there any part of it you did not like, or would want different next time, even a small thing? Then accept the answer without a long apology and change the specific thing she named.