Photographs and video: what to agree first
Two people can spend a fortnight negotiating an implement and a number and never once mention the camera. Then somebody reaches for a phone at the end of the evening, and the question gets answered by whoever moves first.
Consenting adults only. Everything on this page is about adults over 18 who have freely agreed to it.
In short
- Consent to be spanked is not consent to be photographed. The camera is a separate yes, asked separately, in the calm part of the evening.
- A photograph uploads to iCloud or Google Photos within seconds and reaches every device on that account. Deleting it leaves a copy in Recently Deleted for thirty days on an iPhone, or sixty in the Google Photos bin, until you empty it by hand.
- A face and a set of marks in the same frame is the combination that does the damage. Keep them in separate photographs, or in none.
- Sharing an intimate image without consent is a criminal offence in the UK, and threatening to share one is an offence on its own. Help: Revenge Porn Helpline and StopNCII.org.
Everything here is about adults over 18 photographing each other by agreement. It has its own page because it can still be causing trouble in four years, which one sentence buried elsewhere does not cover. A mark is gone inside a fortnight. A file has no such habit.
Almost everybody assumes the camera sits inside the larger yes. It does not. Agreeing to be caned expires when you put your clothes back on. A permanent record runs on a different clock, so it wants asking on its own, in a calm room, before agreeing to things has become easy.
Five agreements, not one
When somebody says "a photo" they mean one of about five things, and rarely the same one as the person they are speaking to.
- A photograph of the marks, taken by her, kept on her phone, for her own record. The one most people actually want.
- The same photograph sent to him. Two copies now, and she controls one.
- A photograph with her face in it. A different object, because marks are anonymous and a person is not.
- Video of a scene. Longer, and with her voice in it, which identifies her about as well as her face.
- A photograph taken during, while she is still in position. Asked for casually, and taken at the moment she can weigh it up least.
Saying yes to the first is not saying yes to any of the rest. Obvious on paper. Considerably less obvious at ten past eleven with a phone already in somebody's hand.
The failures nobody plans for
A photograph taken on a modern handset uploads to iCloud or Google Photos within seconds, over mobile data if there is no wifi, with nothing on screen to see. From that moment the file belongs to an account, and every device signed into that account has it. Turn the backup off before the photograph is taken. On an iPhone: Settings, your name, iCloud, Photos, switch off Sync this iPhone. On Android: the Google Photos app, your profile picture, Photos settings, Backup, off.
Aeroplane mode does not do this. I told somebody it did, years ago, with total confidence, and the upload went out the moment her train left the tunnel. That is the one I have got wrong.
The shared account is next. A photograph in an iCloud library also lands on the iPad in the kitchen, and shared accounts get set up once and remembered never. The two cases of this I know of first hand both involved somebody else in the house picking up the tablet.
Then there is what the file carries. Date and time to the second, the device model, and in most default settings the GPS coordinates, readable by anyone who opens the image properties. A picture of marks taken in your bedroom is a picture of your address.
The Hidden album on an iPhone keeps pictures out of the main view and nothing more. It syncs like everything else and sits two taps away. Disappearing messages have a cousin of the same problem: a screenshot takes a quarter of a second.
All of which leads to the one that matters. Once it is on his phone it is on his phone. You cannot audit a device you do not hold, and "I deleted it" is a claim rather than a fact.
I do not know how often that trust turns out to be misplaced, and nobody does, because the people it happens to stop talking. Every account of it I have heard in person began with a photograph both people had called harmless at the time.
The four rules I use
Tighter than most people need. I hold them anyway.
- My phone stays in another room. Not face down on the chest of drawers, not in a pocket. I say so at the start, so she never has to ask.
- Anything taken is taken on her phone. I do not hold the camera and I do not get a copy. Sending me one later is a conversation for a different day, when nobody is undressed.
- Never a face and marks in the same frame, including when she suggests it. That pairing does the harm, and the person asking is not thinking about February.
- Delete means delete now, together, in the room. Out of the camera roll, then out of Recently Deleted, which holds it thirty days on an iPhone and sixty in the Google Photos bin. Next week is a week late.
What the asking tells you
Photographs turn out to be a screening tool, which I would not have predicted. How somebody handles the question tells you a great deal.
There is the man who raises it early, before you have met, when there is nothing to photograph. There is the proof framing: a picture to show you are serious, to show you are not wasting his time. Some send one of their own first, unasked, because an unearned gift creates a debt. And some take the no perfectly well, then ask again a fortnight later in a slightly different shape.
The right response to a no here is nothing at all. No sulk, no negotiation, no reasonable-sounding compromise, no returning to it. More in red flags and vetting a partner.
Why nobody photographs anything at a play party
UK play parties and fetish markets enforce the camera rule harder than any rule they have. Phones away, nothing photographed anywhere on the premises, and you will be walked to the door for it faster than for anything else.
The reason is arithmetic. A room of forty people contains forty jobs and at least one person whose family has no idea. One photograph with a bystander in the background exposes somebody who agreed to nothing, and a rule with exceptions cannot be enforced by a volunteer on a door at half eleven. Play parties and clubs has the rest of the etiquette. It imports well into a private room.
If an image is out, or is being used as a threat
Sharing an intimate image of an adult without their consent is a criminal offence, in England and Wales under the Online Safety Act 2023, and threatening to share one is an offence in its own right. The second half matters, because the threat is what people actually meet. Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own laws on it. I am not a lawyer and none of this is legal advice.
- Do not pay. Paying establishes that you are a person who pays, and the demand comes back larger.
- Keep the evidence. Screenshot the profile, the username, the conversation and any bank or wallet details before you block anything. Wiping it destroys the case.
- Report it. The Revenge Porn Helpline, run by the charity SWGfL, is free and gets adult intimate images taken down: revengepornhelpline.org.uk. StopNCII.org fingerprints an image on your own device, without it leaving the device, so participating platforms block uploads. Report Fraud (which replaced Action Fraud) takes the report where money has been demanded.
- Tell one person on your side. All of this works on you being alone with it, and the isolation does more damage than the images do.
My own answer has been no every time, and that is a tighter line than the risk strictly warrants. If yours is yes, arrive at it on purpose: one device, backup off, no face, deleted together before anyone leaves.
If this has got on top of you
Samaritans are on 116 123, free, at any hour, and you do not have to be in crisis to ring. People have come very close over exactly this, and nothing that could be posted about you is worth it. If the person threatening you is a partner or an ex, the National Domestic Abuse Helpline is 0808 2000 247.
Sources
- Online Safety Act 2023. legislation.gov.uk
- Revenge Porn Helpline, operated by SWGfL. revengepornhelpline.org.uk
- StopNCII.org. stopncii.org
Common questions
Can he take photos of my marks?
Only if that exact photograph was agreed in advance, because agreeing to be spanked is not agreeing to a camera, and the two get bundled together constantly. If you do say yes, settle whose phone it is taken on, whether your face is anywhere in the frame, and whether it is deleted the same evening. All of that belongs before the session rather than after it.
What can I do if someone will not delete a photo of me?
Sharing an intimate image of an adult without their consent is a criminal offence in the UK, and threatening to share one is an offence on its own, which covers most of what people are actually frightened of. Keep the messages rather than deleting them, do not pay anything, and contact the Revenge Porn Helpline, run by the charity SWGfL, at revengepornhelpline.org.uk. StopNCII.org can fingerprint the image so participating platforms block it. This is general information and not legal advice.
Do phone photos show where they were taken?
Usually, yes. Most handsets write the date and time to the second and, in the default settings, the GPS coordinates into the file itself, so a picture of marks taken in a bedroom is also a record of an address. WhatsApp and Signal strip most of that when they compress an image. Email and AirDrop hand it over intact. Turning off location access for the camera app fixes it, and it has to be done before the photograph.